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Blackpool hoopla scam's 2,600 to 1 odds

BBC Published May 25, 2010 Reviewed Jul 2, 2026 ✓ Reviewed by citations.press editors
Blackpool hoopla scam's 2,600 to 1 odds
Two girls aged 14 and 15 spent £70 on five attempts at the hoopla game within eight minutes, winning nothing.
70 GBP · total amount spent by two girls5 · attempts purchased3 GBP · cost per attempt8 minutes · time elapsed during spending
Stall owner Philip Williams, 53, and assistant Darren Casey, 36, were sentenced to community service and a 14-week suspended jail sentence respectively.
14 weeks · length of suspended jail sentence for Philip Williams
Trading Standards officers filmed two girls paying £3 for five attempts at the hoopla game.
3 £ · payment5 attempts · game attempts Trading Standards, officers
Dr. David Lucy stated that the hoop needed to be thrown from two metres for a chance to land precisely.
2 metres · throwing distance Dr David Lucy, Lancaster University maths expert
Officials from Blackpool Council visited the stall over a two-year period.
2 years · visit period Blackpool Council, Officials
Dr David Lucy's experiment led to the successful prosecution of two men who admitted breaching gambling laws.
2 · men prosecuted Dr David Lucy, Lancaster University maths expert
Trading Standards officers secretly filmed two girls paying £3 for five attempts at the game.
2 · girls filmed3 £ · cost for attempts5 · attempts Trading Standards, officers
Trading Standards officers observed two girls spending £70 within eight minutes.
8 minutes · time spent70 £ · money spent Trading Standards, officers
Dr Lucy stated that throwing the hoop from two metres required precise landing.
2 metres · throwing distance Dr Lucy, mathematics expert
Dr Lucy stated that his experiment involved nearly 600 throws without success, and he calculated that one would have to try 2,600 times for a reasonable chance of being successful.
about 600 · throws made2600 · attempts for reasonable chance of success Dr Lucy, mathematics expert
Blackpool magistrates ordered Philip Williams a 14-week suspended jail sentence.
14 weeks · suspended jail sentence Blackpool magistrates
Council public protection officer Shaun McKinney stated that one individual spent between £1,200 and £1,500 playing the hoopla game.
1 · individualat least 1200 £ · money spentat most 1500 £ · money spent Shaun McKinney, Council public protection officer
The odds of winning the Blackpool hoopla game were 2,600 to one.
2600 to one · odds of winning
Two girls aged 14 and 15 paid £3 for five attempts at the game.
2 · girls filmed14 · first girl's age15 · second girl's age3 £ · payment5 · attempts officers, Trading Standards officers
Dr Lucy found that the hoop needed to be thrown from two metres, and that about 600 throws were made without success, leading to a calculation that 2,600 attempts would be needed for a reasonable chance of winning.
2 metres · throwing distance600 · throws made2600 · tries needed Dr David Lucy, mathematics expert
Stall owner Philip Williams was 53 and assistant Darren Casey was 36.
53 · Philip Williams36 · Darren Casey Blackpool Council
Blackpool Council officials visited the stall over a two-year period.
2 years · period of visits Blackpool Council
Two men were prosecuted for breaching gambling laws.
2 · men prosecuted Dr David Lucy, mathematics expert

Gamblers spent thousands of pounds on a Blackpool hoopla stall - unaware the odds of winning were 2,600 to one.

Trading standards officers seized equipment from the stand on the Golden Mile following public complaints.

And when a Lancaster University maths expert recreated the game he found the size of the hoop and angle of the peg made it practically impossible to win.

Dr David Lucy's experiment led to a successful prosecution of two men who admitted breaching gambling laws.

Trading Standards stepped in after officers secretly filmed two girls, aged 14 and 15, paying £3 for five attempts at the game.

Within eight minutes they had spent £70 - and won nothing.

Items from the stall were later seized and passed to mathematics expert Dr Lucy, who often helps evaluate forensic evidence for the police.

He recreated the game in laboratory conditions and invited staff and students to play - all without success.

Dr Lucy said: "What we found is that you could place the hoop over the pegs but throwing it into the air from two metres it would have to land precisely.

The pegs were cut at such an angle that the trajectory the hoop needed to take just would not work.

"We made nearly 600 throws without any joy which led to me calculating on the geometry that one would have to try 2,600 times to stand a reasonable chance of being successful."

His evidence was used as the basis for Blackpool Council to take stall owner Philip Williams, 53, and his assistant Darren Casey, 36, both of Blackpool, to court.

They were ordered by Blackpool magistrates to perform unpaid work for the community and Williams was also handed a 14-week suspended jail sentence.

Officials from Blackpool Council visited the stall over a two-year period and never witnessed anyone winning.

Most of the victims were visitors and young, vulnerable or elderly, the authority said.

Council public protection officer Shaun McKinney said: "One individual who had come to Blackpool had spent £1,200 to £1,500 playing the hoopla game.

"Obviously a lot of it was to try and win their money back from the initial losses, and it's a case of keep playing until they think they can win it back."

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