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Loophole may clear speeding drivers on Gwynedd by-pass

BBC Published Jun 9, 2010 Reviewed Jul 1, 2026 ✓ Reviewed by citations.press editors
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The temporary speed limit on the by-pass was 30mph.
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Fines for driving over 30mph but under 60mph would not be legal.
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John Jones was recorded driving at 83mph in May last year at Gyrn Goch.
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Mr Jones was fined £60 and given three penalty points.
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Michael Strain was acting for five people in similar situations.
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Motorists would also get any points incurred removed from their licences.
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Michael Strain said that the situation could mean someone could lose their licence, their job and their house.
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Michael Strain said it is important that authorities keep to a certain standard when putting traffic orders in place.
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A Gwynedd council spokesman said it would be inappropriate for the council to comment until there had been an opportunity to consider the full details of the court's decision.
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The Crown Prosecution Service said it was also looking into the matter.
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The Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said the situation is still under review and they are working closely with North Wales Police and Gwynedd council.
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Motorists booked for speeding on a new by-pass could find their tickets revoked because of a legal loophole.

It came to light after magistrates heard the proper process was not followed when temporary speed limits were put on the road in Gwynedd.

Motorists were clocked doing more than the 30mph temporary limit at Clynnog-fawr, between Pwllheli and Caernarfon.

Gwynedd council is to consider the "full details". It is not known how many drivers could be affected.

Caernarfon Magistrates Court heard that the council had failed to follow the correct process when setting up the temporary 30mph limit.

The court heard that meant that any fines for driving over 30mph but under 60mph would not be legal, and motorists would also get any points incurred removed from their licences.

It is not clear how many motorists could be affected.

It came to light after the case of John Jones, who was recorded driving at 83mph in May last year at Gyrn Goch.

Mr Jones was fined £60 and given three penalty points. He admitted driving over 60mph and his fine and penalty points stand.

His solicitor Michael Strain said after the court case that he was acting for five people in similar situations.

"Something like this could mean someone could lose their licence, their job and their house," Mr Strain told the BBC Wales News website.

"I think it's important that the authorities keep to a certain standard when they put traffic orders in place," he added.

A Gwynedd council spokesman said it would be inappropriate for the council to comment on the matter until there had been "an opportunity to consider the full details of the court's decision".

The Crown Prosecution Service said it was also looking into the matter.

"The situation is still under review and we are working closely with North Wales Police and Gwynedd council," said a spokesman.

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